Jesus is now a Brahman?
Written by Dilip Muralidaran on January 1, 2008 – 5:46 pm -
I recently came across this webpage that was created for purposes of evangelization. Quite a nice presentation on how great the god of Christ is and how his love will save the world. In technical terms this webpage is a fantastic collection of not so very accurate but a very complete collection of Hindu Gods and Goddesses. I cannot deny the fact that they have taken the efforts to put together this long list of gods. Born in a Hindu family it’s quite difficult a task frankly and they have done a good job. However the funniest thing is that they have explained the Hindu Gods in such great precise detail it looks like a documentation of Hindu Deities. Nevertheless there are some cheap statements the website pulls of which i would like to address here. After explaining in detail the concept of everything being a divine being in Hinduism unlike the monolithic Christian religion which sings the praise of a Christ they feel it is their responsibility to take a dig at Hinduism by saying things like “these gods are not God, they can not make stars, nor roses, nor human hearts...” I’m actually impressed. So does that mean that Jesus Christ could make stars, Grow Roses and also fix human hearts? It looks like i can fire all the astronomers in NASA since Jesus can take care of the stars and celestial bodies. I could fire my gardener since Jesus can grow roses. I could also nuke all the Heart Surgeons in town and be done with it because Jesus could not fix hearts too. However the humble reality is that you would end up paying the price of gold for a rose, have no clue about what’s around the planet and which asteroid heads our way or have all of our senior citizens with heart ailments bite the dust. Then the text goes on to describe Vishnu as… Vishnu, is the savior and protector of mankind, he incarnates, like Jesus, but 10 times!… the last one, as “Kalkin”, is still to come. He is very popular, and shown as one of his 9 incarnations (“avatars”), as fish, tortoise, a boar… the last 3 were Rama, Krishna, and Buddha, who are very popular, most specially Krishna for Hinduism… I have some problems with this statement. The number of times Vishnu reincarnates is not a specific number in Hinduism. Secondly the Christian illiterate who wrote this page needs to know Vishnu does not die like Jesus Christ but he takes several forms as per the requirement to relieve human kind of evil forces. For example in the “Narasimha Avataram” he takes the form of half man and half lion and represents a very beastly and ferocious form. This is because his purpose of killing Hiranyakasipu needs to be fulfilled. Hiranyakasipu cannot be killed by a man or a beast, so the half man and half beastly form. Having said that being an atheist i care not if Jesus does or Vishnu dies, neither of them are real and are fairy tales of prehistoric men who wrote all this stuff while smoking grass. It does not stop here. The guy says the last one is “kalkin”, excuse me but is not that supposed to be “Kalki”? I find it really funny because he talks like an expert and know all of Hinduism but cannot even spell a 5 letter work right! How difficult could it be spelling Kalki, never mind. The Final section of the page goes to say the following… Rama and Krishna never existed, like Hamlet or Holmes, never existed and they do not exist right now, they existed only in the imagination of the novelist. Jesus Christ is God, a person live right now… he is real, he can clean all our bad karma, forgive all our sins… he is the real Brahman made flesh who died on a Cross with love, to pay for all our sins, to clean all our bad karma, and resurrected to give us a new glorious life on Earth, and an eternal life in Heaven, as the “person” we are, and without the need of any reincarnation… and it is free, just believe in Jesus!… He is at your side right now!… Christianity Advertising just could not get better could it? Rama and Krishna never existed? Maybe yes, they never did just like Jesus Christ did not exist. Little does our author realize that there is not just evidence for Krishna and Rama to have existed but there is no evidence for any religious entity to have existed in the history of the human race. Probably the only proof of god to have existed is Buddha and Lord Mahavira, if at all you could call man turned divines as god. There is no proof for Mohammed or Allah to have existed. Technically speaking there is one point that could prove enough that a person by the name of Jesus Christ, the lord or the so called saviour of mankind never existed. There was a great Philosopher named “Philo” who lived during the times of Jesus Christ. He lived from around 20 BC to 50 AD approximately and documented most of the things that happened during those times. Being the expert and the genius of an identity that he was he should have mentioned in at least one of his many hundreds of literature that he wrote about the great son of god Jesus Christ. Guess what? He did not write a thing about Jesus or his Christ. Considering the fact that Jesus was a ultra famous personality who was known amongst every one and Phylio and Jesus, both of them lived in Jerusalem its astonishing a fact. Out of the hundreds of odd miracles of Jesus Christ performed its funny that Phylio did not even document one to state that he knows someone or someone by name Jesus Christ existed during his times. Forget Phylio, let’s consider he was a retarded fellow who supported the Jews and wanted to mess with the history of Jesus and hence smoked all the information during the resurrection of Jesus Christ. But then we have a particular astronomical event that would have attracted the attention of anyone interested in the “heavens.” According to Luke 23:44-45, there occurred “about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour, and the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.” Yet not a single mention of such a three hour ecliptic event got recorded by anyone, including the astronomers and astrologers, anywhere in the world, including Pliny the Elder and Seneca the Younger who both recorded eclipses from other dates. Note also that, for obvious reasons, eclipses can’t occur during a full moon (Passovers always occur during full moons), Nor does a single contemporary person write about the earthquake described in Matthew 27:51-54 where the earth shook, rocks ripped apart (rent), and graves opened. Its funny the Christian missionaries are happily badmouthing every other religion when their stories and accounts are a classic example of embarrassment in the first place.
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By Dhruva on Jan 3, 2008 | Reply
this is just another way of converting other to christian.
By Chellakilly on Jan 6, 2008 | Reply
There are always people that may sell Christianity to people…but I believe (as a christian) in order to reach people you share Christianity with people. I think what people, (yes that includes you) need to understand is that a religion is not simply understood like math, if it was, then how can it be so divine. The faith to believe that Christ created our hearts, made the stars…thats what makes it so much more than life. Only when you belive that a divine person like God is bigger than life, will you be able to understand what he does. Sure some christians don’t now how to evangelize without scrutiny. Religion should pierce and explain who you are and what you believe, it should never make you sway and say things like ” Jesus might be dead or alive?”
By Rajesh on Aug 18, 2010 | Reply
Chellakilly misses the point totally, not so different than other christians.
The point is simply this – you can get to the supreme in many ways (dharmas), and you should follow your own dharma to attain moksha.
Hindus believe that everyone has a right to follow their dharma, and we will not tell you our dharma is superior to yours or inferior to yours. It is simply not relevant. You will not find anywhere in Sanathana Dharma (hinduism) where it says someone else’s dharma is lesser than what I’ve been asked to follow… much unlike your New Testament (I specifically don’t mention the original Bible – which you Christians call the Old Testament because it doesn’t preach proselytization.)
The fact that Christians believe that their dharma is the only way to salvation, and have the need to convert others is a pure and simple violation of my right, and simply put – it is the worst form of aggression that one can perpetrate on others.
First learn to live in harmony with others.